Schaeffer, Martin | AW: [LFN] Probably a common question
- Autor: Schaeffer, Martin (“”)
- Tema: AW: [LFN] Probably a common question
- Data: 2005-04-19 14:11
- Mesaje: 976 (presedente, seguente)
Hello, my English ist not so good, but i hope you will understand me. I think that Antonio and Jarley exagerate a little bit, while answering to Aron, that after studying LFN he will understand a lot (poems too) of other neolatin languages. I learnt spanish in university i use it daily, in school i learnt english, latin and a little french. My knowledge of Esperanto is very well and i use it every day too. But: It is not possible for me understand a conversation in spanish between people who dont´t know that i am following their conversation (par example in a bus or in the street. Also i have difficulties with films or television. When i read a text in LFN i can understand many words but it isn´t possible for me really understand the text. So i can´t believe that the way invers and that means "understand a lot" when people speaking portugues or italien after studying LFN is possible. Perhaps for Jarley it is more possible "understand a lot" of the poems but not because he knows LFN but because he have a neolatin langue as mother tongue, speaks spanish and other languages. If you really want to "understand" finally you have to learn spanish, portugues or anonther language. In the last contribution there was a discussion of the goal of a IAL. There was mentioned that understanding "natural" languages is not the primary reason to study LFN. In the theory of the conlangs there are different types of conlangs. Some conlangs are more natural and others are more artificial. If a conlang is a little more artificial it is easier for persons with any language as mother tongue. So you can realize the objective (as Jagques defined it) of easy and free communication among all people of universe in a more neutral way. In the case of LFN it is much easier for persons which speak a neolatin language as mother tongue or for persons who knows already a neolatin language than for german, english, russian or japanese people. The advantage of LFN is exactly that after learning LFN it is more easy to learn a neolatin language. And I agree with Aron, that exactly this advantage is a highlight, a bonus of LFN. And i agree with Aron too, that if you are trying to convince other people to learn LFN this is the most important argument in the moment, because the other goals: easy and free comunication among all people of universe have to wait, because with this argument you don´t can convince persons in the moment. The second step in the evolution of a conlang as LFN is that thousands and thousands of people practice the language (by mail, telephone, convention, reading literature, own culture and so on / in the theory there are many other steps). Then you can promote LFN as well with this argument. Only after this time LFN could be "the conlang" and this means that all the people of the universe use it for easy and free communication. But it will be a long way. Martin -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: aronlevinku [mailto:meatface@...] Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. April 2005 02:22 An: LinguaFrancaNova@yahoogroups.com Betreff: Re: [LFN] Probably a common question Thanks to everyone so far for answering my questions. One person mentioned that understanding "natural" languages is not the primary reason to study LFN. While I agree, I do think that it is important to highlight some bonus features of the language, for example, the points I brought up. If you're trying to convince someone to learn LFN (or if they're trying to convince themselves) it can be helpful for many people to know that there are practical reasons to learn LFN, aside from the hope that it may one day become the one well-established IAL. sf, I like the fact that you actually chatted in LFN with a spanish guy. That must have been pretty interesting. Was he very curious as to what you were speaking? Anyone else have any experiences like this? --- In LinguaFrancaNova@yahoogroups.com, Stefan Fisahn <sf@e...> wrote: > On Sun, Apr 17, 2005 at 09:48:14PM -0000, Aron wrote: > > > > > > > > But since I'm new to all of this, I'd like to know: > > > > By learning LFN, what existing language would I be most able to > > understand, written and spoken? > > > > What language does LFN most resemble? > > > > If I were fluent in LFN, which language would be able to understand me? > > > > Thanks. > > > > A very good question which fascinated me since I began learning LFN. > My own experience: > I tried to chat with a spanish (he in spanish, and I in LFN) - that > works. Reading spanish text works as well, also reading italian. > More hard is to understand italian or spanish Television. > > regards, > sf. > > -- > http://esef.net -- *** LFN *** Lingua Franca Nova *** LFN *** Web site: http://www.lingua-franca-nova.net WikiWiki: http://lfn.esef.net Mailing list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LinguaFrancaNova Yahoo! Groups Links