Kevin Smith | Re: [europidgin] another basic vocab list

• Autor: Kevin Smith (“kevinbsmith”)
• Tema: Re: [europidgin] another basic vocab list
• Data: 2002-09-26 02:43
• Mesaje: 249 (a supra, presedente, seguente)

On Wed, 2002-09-25 at 15:37, George Boeree wrote:
> I assume that by Not in LFN, you mean not in the basic word list I
> suggested.

Correct. "Not in LFN" were words from Bjorn's list that my simple
program could not find in your 1200 word list. "Not in EP" were words
that were in your 1200 list, but were not found in Bjorn's 500 list.

vera. "Not in LFN" era marca li parola de la lista de Bjorn ce la
programa simpli de me no era trova en la lista de 1200 parola de te.
"Not in EP" era li parola ce era en la lista de 1200, e no era trova en
la lista de 500.

> I found that some words were actually in the list (see the ?)
> abrida    (open)?
> amable    (nice)?
> amante    (kind)?
...

Yes, these were in your 1200, but not in Bjorn's 500.

vera, los era en li 1200 de te, e no era en li 500 de Bjorn.

> some were in the list under different spellings (some errors mine)
> belia    (beauty) < bela
> lumina    (light) should be lus
> material    (material) < materia
> mori    (die)? < mor
...

I hope you and Bjorn will update any materials necessary to keep
everything consistent.

me es espera ce te e Bjorn sera cambia alga informa ce es teni los, vole
ce la tota es mesma.

> some were derivatives of words in my list,

Yes, my program only adjusted for the -r suffix.

vera. la programa de me era cambia sola la "-r" fini.

> and, of course, many were in fact not in my list.
> Not in LFN: adio    (goodbye)
> Not in LFN: alo    (hello)
...

I don't plan to work any more with the differences between these two
lists.

me no sera labora plu de li diferente entra esta du lista.

> I am really starting to think that a 500 or 1000 word list is not really
> a worthwhile goal for pijin.  (It is certainly a worthwhile goal for the
> construction of a lfn or pijin dictionary, but that is another
> project!)

I'm not sure I understand you. How is the development of pijin
[vocabulary] different from the development of a pijin dictionary?

me no es creda ce me es comprende. ce moda la fa de un grupo parola tota
de Pijin es diferente de la fa de un lista parola tota de Pijin?

> and so we should be looking not for an "ultimate" list,
> but a series of lists of 20 (50?) words with the most
> useful in the first list, and so on.

That sounds like a good exercise for creating learning materials. I will
be creating my own "ultimate" 500 word list, because I need one for my
own work. Anyone else is free to use portions of my list to create a
larger dictionary, tutorials, or anything else.

esta es pare como un esersita bon, vole sera fa li informa aprende. me
sera fa un lista parola 500 "la plu bon" de me, per ce me es manca lo
per la labora me. alga person sera permete de sera usa alga parte de
esta lista, vole sera fa un lista verba plu grande, o un informa
aprende, o alga otra.

adio!

Kevin