George Boeree | Re: [europidgin] another basic vocab list

This message is pretty much for Kevin and others interested in the word
lists.

I assume that by Not in LFN, you mean not in the basic word list I
suggested.  I found that some words were actually in the list (see the
?), some were in the list under different spellings (some errors mine),
some were derivatives of words in my list, and, of course, many were in
fact not in my list.

I am really starting to think that a 500 or 1000 word list is not really
a worthwhile goal for pijin.  (It is certainly a worthwhile goal for the
construction of a lfn or pijin dictionary, but that is another
project!)  Perhaps making a textbook introducing words one chapter at a
time is the better approach, and so we should be looking not for an
"ultimate" list, but a series of lists of 20 (50?) words with the most
useful in the first list, and so on.

abrida    (open)?
Not in LFN: adio    (goodbye)
Not in LFN: alo    (hello)
amable    (nice)?
amante    (kind)?
apartamente    (flat)?
aprende    (learn) aprendar
Not in LFN: area    (area)
Not in LFN: arma    (arm) verb (armar)
Not in LFN: asida    (acid)
asul    (blue) spelled azul
Not in LFN: ata    (act) also atar (verb)
Not in LFN: atenta    (try)
Not in LFN: bal    (ball)
belia    (beauty) < bela
bolinte    (boiling) <bolir
briliante    (bright) < brilia
Not in LFN: bus    (bus)
capasia    (ability) < capas
Not in LFN: carater    (character)
caveta    (hollow) < cava
Not in LFN: cimical    (chemical) also cimica (noun)
Not in LFN: comanda    (order)
Not in LFN: combata    (fight)
comeda    (food)? < comer
Not in LFN: consensa    (conscious)
Not in LFN: copia    (copy)
Not in LFN: crese    (grow)
Not in LFN: cualia    (quality)
Not in LFN: cuando    (when)
departi    (departure) also partir
Not in LFN: destrui    (destroy)
Not in LFN: disputa    (argument)
Not in LFN: diverte    (entertainment)
Not in LFN: do    (where)
Not in LFN: dura    (last) although:  durante (during)
Not in LFN: economia    (economy)
Not in LFN: efeta    (effect)
Not in LFN: elastica    (elastic)
Not in LFN: encontra    (meet)
Not in LFN: enferno    (hell) is this an important word?
Not in LFN: es    (be)  this IS an important word!
Not in LFN: escusa    (excuse)
Not in LFN: fisical    (physical)
Not in LFN: forma    (shape)
fortia    (force) < forte
grandia    (size) < grande
Not in LFN: identia    (identity) is this important?
Not in LFN: indica    (point)
Not in LFN: informa    (information) also informar (verb)
Not in LFN: intelijente    (intelligent)
Not in LFN: jenero    (kind)
Not in LFN: labora    (work) but see laboror and travalia
Not in LFN: lado    (side)
Not in LFN: local    (local) < loca
lumina    (light) should be lus
madre    (mother)?
Not in LFN: materia    (matter)
material    (material) < materia
Not in LFN: medical    (medical) < medica (medicine)
Not in LFN: militaria    (military)
Not in LFN: min    (less) a very important word
Not in LFN: model    (standard)
Not in LFN: moral    (moral)
mori    (die)? < mor
Not in LFN: move    (move)
Not in LFN: natural    (natural) < natura
Not in LFN: negosia    (business)
Not in LFN: nesesitada    (necessary) my error:  I had nesesaria instead

Not in LFN: nivel    (level)
Not in LFN: normal    (normal)
Not in LFN: ocure    (happen)
Not in LFN: opera    (operate)
Not in LFN: ordina    (order)
Not in LFN: orijin    (source)
padre    (father)?
Not in LFN: parce    (park) important word?
parente    (parent) madre e padre
Not in LFN: peri    (waste)
Not in LFN: permete    (permit) my mistake:  I had permiter
plasa    (place) should be loca, or poner, if you mean to put
polisia    (police) < polis
political    (political) < politica (politics)
Not in LFN: polo    (pole)
Not in LFN: posmedia    (afternoon)
potia    (power) < poter
Not in LFN: proba    (prove)
Not in LFN: projeta    (project)
Not in LFN: publico    (public)
Not in LFN: puni    (punishment) < punir
Not in LFN: rasona    (reason)
Not in LFN: regarda    (look) or is vider enough?
Not in LFN: relijion    (religion)
Not in LFN: repare    (repair)
respondable    (responsible) < responder
rompada    (broken) < romper (rompeda)
Not in LFN: savaje    (wild)
segue    (follow) should be seguir
Not in LFN: sentra    (center) media not enough?
Not in LFN: separe    (separate) but see separeda
Not in LFN: seria    (serious)
Not in LFN: sistem    (system)
Not in LFN: solida    (solid)
Not in LFN: sona    (sound)
Not in LFN: sosia    (society)
Not in LFN: spasio    (space)
Not in LFN: spirito    (spirit)
sposida    (married)?
Not in LFN: strutur    (structure)
Not in LFN: sufri    (suffer)
Not in LFN: sujeto    (subject)
Not in LFN: surpresa    (surprise) but see surpresada
Not in LFN: susede    (success)
Not in LFN: teni    (hold)
Not in LFN: transporta    (vehicle) unnecessarily generic?
Not in LFN: valua    (value)
veliada    (awake)?
vivente    (living) < viver

Kevin Smith wrote:

>  On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 15:32, George Boeree wrote:
> > The following is a list of about 1100 basic, much used words, with
> > another 100 useful derived words (indented).  Perhaps someone could
> > compare and contrast these with Bjorn's list, and come up with a
> third
> > list, better than either original?
>
> mi era fa un lista de li parola ce es en la EP lista (de la EP reti
> plasa) ma no es en la esta LFN lista. e la oposante. mi era omite li
> cosa ce es ave li plu de un parola. mi era atenta repare ce un lista
> era
> usa la '-r' e la otra lista no era usa la '-r'.
>
> la lista un es li parola de la lista de Bjorn ce no es en la lista de
> George. la lista du es li parola de la lista de George ce no es en la
> lista de Bjorn.
>
> a un ora futur, mi sera posable scrive li idea de mi de ce li
> diferente.
>
> adio,
>
> Kevin
>