rayberau | Re: Simplified pronouns from George (was: general comments)

• Autor: rayberau
• Tema: Re: Simplified pronouns from George (was: general comments)
• Data: 2002-09-18 14:15
• Mesaje: 136 (a supra, presedente, seguente)

--- In europidgin@y..., Kevin Smith <yahoogroups@q...> wrote:
> I think this might be a good compromise. I would propose using these
> singulars:    mi tu lo
> Then, for plurals, traditionalists could use: nos vos los
> And pidginists like me could use: mis tus los
> > I agree that the possessive is not necessary --
> > simply using me, etc, before the noun is great!

Ray Bergmann respondan:
Mi ance (= ancem) pensa (= pensan) ce la sisteme pronome (= pronoma
sistemo) de LFN no es (= esan) sufisinte(m) regula: "io, vu, so" con
la plurales "ios, vus, sos" pote eser base (= potan esen basa).
Donce(m), sin conflictante con LFN tro multe, la disionario
eurocreole (= eurocreola disionario) debe monstrar (= deban monstren
= monstrun):

cosa io / ia coso = mine, my thing
cosa ios / iosa coso = ours (subject / object following verb or
preposition)
cosa vu / va coso = yours (subject / object following verb or
preposition)
cosa vus / vusa coso = yours (subject / object following verb or
preposition)
cosa so / sa coso = his, hers, its (subject / object following verb
or preposition)
cosa sos / sosa coso = theirs (subject / object following verb or
preposition)
e cosa io / ia cose = mine (object preceding verb)
e cosa ios / iosa cose = ours (object preceding verb)
e cosa so / sa cose = his, hers, its (object preceding verb)
e cosa sos / sosa cose = theirs (object preceding verb)
e cosa vu / va cose = yours (object phrase containing singular
possessive pronoun preceding verb)
e cosa vus / vusa cose = yours (object phrase containing plural
possessive pronoun preceding a verb)
e io / ie = me
e ios / ies (seguente verbe transitive o preposto) = us
ha (mascla vario de "sa") = his
he (mascla vario de "se") = him
hi (mascla vario de "so") = he
i /id (presedente vocale) = and
ia (coso) / (cosa) io = my (thing)
ia coso / cosa io = mine
ies / e ios (seguente verbe transitive o preposto) = us
io = I
(cosa) io / ia (cose) = my (thing)
ios (presedente un verbe transitive) = we
ios (seguente un verbe transitive o un preposto) / ies / e ios = us
iosa (cose) / (cosa) ios = our (thing)
iosa cose / e cosa ios = ours, our thing
sa (cose) / (cosa) so = his, her, its (possessive)
sa cose / e cosa so = his/hers/its thing (object phrase preceding
verb)
se / e so = him, her, it
ses / e sos = them
si = yes, if, whether, as long as , provided, indeed, very
sis = six
so = he, she, it
sos = they (subject / object following verb or preposition)
sosa cose / e cosa sos = theirs (object preceding verb)
su = reflexive pronoun for third person singular or plural
sub = below, under, beneath, underneath
ta (formo de "sa" usada solam por coses) = its (possessive)
te (formo de "se" usada solam por coses) = it (object of verb or
preposition)
to (formo de "so" usada solam por coses) = it (subject)
xa = (fema vario de "sa") = her (possessive)
xe / e xi = her (accusative)
xi (fema vario de "iso") = she