Antonio Fonseca | Re: [LFN] 1894, Ido, etc. [was: From Thomas Alexander….]
- Autor: Antonio Fonseca (“acrfonseca”)
- Tema: Re: [LFN] 1894, Ido, etc. [was: From Thomas Alexander….]
- Data: 2005-03-25 21:49
- Mesaje: 945 (a supra, presedente, seguente)
Rio, 25/03/05 E... Ce ave la patalon con la...? :) Salute Antonio ====== >Thomas Alexander wrote (privately): > > > I've been looking for information on the reform project of 1894 > > and in the process, I've become curious about what modern > > reformemuloj think about it. [...] > >Would never subscribe to esp-novo, eh? Ego-surfing, eh? Oh well, >greetings in any event. In response to your questions: > >It's been a long time since I read anything about the reform project >of 1894, and what remains in my memory is more a general negative >impression than any particular details. I can say that nobody has ever >been particularly enthusiastic about it as far as I know - you know, >hey, that was a great set of proposals, we really should go with it, etc. >Most of what was attractive about it was later incorporated into Ido, >I think, so there was nothing much left to recommend the original proposal, >which never impressed me as being very good in the first place - or even >serious. I would characterize it in the U.S. vernacular as "half-assed": >Zamenhof, yes, would always have liked to have seen Esperanto brushed up >and its more egregious faults corrected (read, principally, the diacritics), >but on the other hand he was compromised by several complicating factors >that I presumably don't have to lay out for you. > >You're reminding me... I was going to say that you would need the bound >collection of "La Esperantisto" to get the details on the 1984 project, >but now I'm remembering that someone published it separately at some point, >in a little brochure that would be cheap or even free. The whole thing >should be on the Web, now that I think of it - or in one of the volumes >published by "ludovikito" and presumably still available from the UEA >book service. Anyway, I never liked what I saw of the 1984 project much, >and if anything in my reform style seems similar to it that's due more >to coincidence than to imitation. > > > Also, I'm curious about your thoughts on Ido -- yours specifically, > > but also in general, what the people in your Nova Provo think about it. > >"Nova Provo", again, was simply the name of the journal. There was an >association called Novo, but it merely drifted into the Yahoo chat group >you're familiar with. The others can say what they like - Ray Bergmann >is fairly positive about Ido, I think, and took various things from it >that I in turn took from him - but I can say myself simply that I don't >like Ido and never have, though one would suppose otherwise from the fact >that when I had the chance in Spain some years ago I read every issue of >its journal "Progreso" that had ever been published. To me it's simply >unattractive, no better than Esperanto in that regard and in a certain >way worse, though I would be hard put to describe this exactly. I'm a lot >more attracted by Lingua Franca Nova, which is enjoying a vogue at present - >though I don't have the time for it either. > > > How often do people come up with Esperanto-Ido hybrids and the like. > >Not often enough, not seriously enough, and - worst of all - with no >authority whatsoever. It has been and remains a game for amateurs, >unfortunately, the same as the traditional Esperanto movement and all >other interlinguistic endeavors. It should be otherwise, but it isn't. > > > Your name came up last fall (2003) when we were staying with > > a couple in New Hampshire. (I forgot their names.) > >Vermont. Andy and Eva Behrens. > > > Apparently you'd stayed there a few years before. I suspect that would > > have been the same trip where you were calling me as you were driving > > down the New York State Thruway. > >Yeah. Still sorry I missed you. > >Best wishes, > >Roy McCoy Antonio Carlos Rodrigues da Fonseca acrfonseca@... Cel: 021 9107 2430 ---------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.1 - Release Date: 23/03/2005 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]