fasilinguo | Several questions (long).
- Autor: fasilinguo
- Tema: Several questions (long).
- Data: 2002-09-12 10:07
- Mesaje: 19 (presedente, seguente)
Hi you all.
This long message contains several issues, rather isolate ones; so I'll divide the issues now.
First question. This question is, by far, the less important, but I quote it in order to avoid misunderstandings. Tino isn't "my" pet language, but an attempt to surpass the well know stagnation of the planned languages, separed into several religions or cults who fight themselves mutually. For us, tinists, the solution isn't to make the triumph of Tino, Europidgin, Esperanto, Volapük, Interlingua and so on, but to make an ecumenic planned language. As the name "Tino" is only provisory and its structures are also provisory (very close to initial Europidgin), we can easily agree another name and another structures for an ecumenic planned language, thus the name "Europidgin" is also good.
Second question. A known problem on lists about auxlangs is the overwhelming use of English language. This, in practice, throws out many concerned ones on an universal auxlang who don't speak English at all or, as in my case, use a broken English painly understandable. I suggest simply allowing all languages in this list (specially Romance languages), more and more using right Europidgin in it.
Third question. If we want to solve the international linguistic problem, not just to polemize useless, we must go on real affairs, as the obvious replacement of English and the other big national languages by a planned language in the international arena.
Fourth question. Despite Paul Bartlett's fear on a future ununderstandable Europidgin, I think the changes (continuous changes) in a planned language are no problem, simply as users do use the language to understand each other.
Fifth question. Despite the arguments pro "k", I prefer "c", as in Tino, Acadon or Royese (Royese is a reformed Esperanto by Roy Mc Coy). I know that other tinists propose and use the "k", and I use myself sometimes the "k" instead "c" when writing Tino, but I think that, with a Romance vocabulary, the "c" is more practical to recognize the semantic roots. Provisory, the eclectic use of both "c" and "k" is a solution.
Sixth question. There arent' problems using just "r" to show the infinitive. In my opinion, the only real problem allowing whichever ending in nouns is the plural. I suggest ending all adjectives and nouns by a vowel, or forming by "es" the plural of a form finishing by a consonant in singular. But the plural by just one form, "s", is the best solution, so all pluralizable words would be end by a vowel.
Seventh question, addressed specially to Paul Bartlett: I'm seeking materials on Neo and Eurolengo. Can you help me?
Eighth question. The use or "z" and "s" as mere sibilant varieties, both spoken and written, never compulsory and never distinguishing words, is a good initial solution. I prefer the solution in Tino and Novial: only "s", as there are very few Romance words distinguished by the two sounds. Thus, the "s" would be more or less voiced, but always written as "s".
Ninth question. The most internationally known vocabulary is the Occidental one, so using Occidental vocabulary in Europidgin is the best startpoint. But if Chinese, Turkish, Quechua, Gambian and such users of Europidgin prefer entering much non-Occidental vocabulary, no problem. The key is the the users' freedom forever, without the dictatorship of academies and specialists. If we, indeed, desire to understand us mutually by Europidgin, not just to speak about it in English, we'll understand us each other, no matter the changes on vocabulary, grammar and so on. The real, historic pidgins, from Koine Greek to Hirimotu, worked fine thus.
By Alexandre Xavier Casanova Domingo.
----- Original Message -----
I have just joined the Europidgin mailing list to see what it
is all about. (I have had some interest in Lingua Franca Nova
and am interested in auxiliary languages in general.) Members
should be aware that Alexandre Xavier Casanova Domingo is
blanketing nearly every internet forum that he can find and
touting his pet language Tino. So far he seems to have had
little success in interesting other internet users.
Paul Bartlett